tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22974616.post3658928794910251801..comments2023-10-02T14:33:18.136+01:00Comments on The Very Fluffy Diary of Millennium Dome, Elephant: Day 3631: Did Yooooooo Betray Meeeeeee?Millennium Domehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08430269096817934037noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22974616.post-48328404438934753722010-12-13T13:10:23.275+00:002010-12-13T13:10:23.275+00:00Sorry about the change of order: my feeble attempt...Sorry about the change of order: my feeble attempt at bathos.Lon Wonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08084739915361657921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22974616.post-9687609542306424032010-12-13T07:58:54.080+00:002010-12-13T07:58:54.080+00:00Dear Mr Lonely Wanderer (apologies if that should ...Dear Mr Lonely Wanderer (apologies if that should be Ms)<br /><br />You seem to be bringing your own agenda to the table, because you've re-ordered the sequence in which the points you highlight appear in my post.<br /><br />Regarding Captain Clegg: only your point 5 is pertinent, and I wouldn't put it the way you do.<br /><br />I trust my readers to make their own minds up about whether delivering the four primary points of our manifesto, and 64% of the manifesto in total, outweighs or doesn't outweigh the price for breaking the pledge.<br /><br />And that some of them will come to a different conclusion holds no fear for me: we're a Liberal Democratic party - the surprise surely is when we all agree, not when we have a range of opinions.Millennium Domehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430269096817934037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22974616.post-46421263169958234792010-12-13T01:01:04.795+00:002010-12-13T01:01:04.795+00:00So, Millennium, if I've got your scattergun ar...So, Millennium, if I've got your scattergun arguments correct, Clegg screwing up over the pledge on tuition fees is outweighed by:<br /><br />1. Labour being opportunist and tribalist, and diminishing our discourse by accusations of "betrayal";<br /><br />2. the Conservatives refusing to find extra cash;<br /><br />3. the NUS failing to keep their own pledge;<br /><br />4. students failing to turn out, and generally being a privileged class;<br /><br />5. us (your readers?) failing to laud the good things Clegg's done in government, to remember his magnificence during the election, to note that 21 MPs kept the pledge, and to think enough about those who don't get to be students;<br /><br />6. Buffy's friends should never have resurrected her; and Blake's friends should have trusted him... or something...<br /><br />Hmmnm, well, yes I agree there's <a href="http://hopingformorethanslogans.blogspot.com/2010/12/who-came-out-well-from-tuition-fees.html" rel="nofollow">lots of blame to go round here</a> (Buffy & Blake excepted).<br /><br />But, with respect, none of that matters a load of dingo's kidneys. This is about the <a href="http://hopingformorethanslogans.blogspot.com/2010/11/rethinking-what-tuition-fees-issue-is.html" rel="nofollow">one currency</a> a political party possesses.Lon Wonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08084739915361657921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22974616.post-89131391068405910772010-12-10T19:23:07.447+00:002010-12-10T19:23:07.447+00:00an epic post - quite brilliant, I don't know w...an epic post - quite brilliant, I don't know why Elephants are excluded from running for high office!JohnMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12880436007058091917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22974616.post-29316492628567255922010-12-10T18:21:59.384+00:002010-12-10T18:21:59.384+00:00So here is a CHEERY video to remind him how THAT w...<i>So here is a CHEERY video to remind him how THAT works out…</i> Indeed.<br /><br />The battle's done, and we kinda won, so we sound our victory cheer. <br />Where do we go from here?Obtusehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06208324703407336600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22974616.post-64324082799711339602010-12-10T18:01:03.824+00:002010-12-10T18:01:03.824+00:00Of course to continue the analogy, LBJ was overthr...Of course to continue the analogy, LBJ was overthrown by the left of his party and we ended up with Nixon..... :-)Hywelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16094171587140185827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22974616.post-87704769523312969032010-12-10T17:50:07.360+00:002010-12-10T17:50:07.360+00:00"He delivers the AV referendum, an elected Ho..."He delivers the AV referendum, an elected House of Lords and a fixed term Parliament but is he known as Clegg the Reformer?<br /><br />But he screws-up over ONE pledge to the NUS…"<br /><br />The problem is that your political legacy is never remembered in a fair way.<br /><br />There was a US President who signed groundbreaking Civil rights legislation into law, introduced far reaching health reforms, the most significant gun control legislation, federal funding for education in a way which had never been seen before and called the Klan a society of bigots. Arguably the greatest progressive record of any western leader since the war. Yet LBJ is forever associated with VietnamHywelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16094171587140185827noreply@blogger.com